Here is an example of a good player, using his hacks and hiding it well.
This guy *IS* a good player, unfortunately I believe him to be using a wallhack. You guys can see what you think. He spams alot and tries to hide it, and imho does it pretty well. However, first incident is when Bill_Fillmaf drops to the lava escape, watch as Aepon aims through the pillar at him and shoots at his feet right as he exits. How did he know he was there? Next watch as he chases tazzycane from the dungeon, he misses his rail jump, yet proceeds to follow tazzy making all turns perfectly. Honestly, you have to watch closely to detect it, however, if you load up a wallhack, and watch the demo, you will see him watch both people through the walls, a definite sign of a wallhacker. I'm sure I will get alot of slack for posting this one, as whoever Aepon is, he is a pretty good player, and probably respected by many. However, I am simply doing my duty and recording it as I see it. Everyone let me know what you think.

BTW, I use cg_fov of 120. Does anyone use more then this?

AEPON.DM_66
+mailman

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I use 150.

It would actually be hard to get anyone banned with this video. I can see where your coming from, and I've had my suspicions about this guy also, but there just isn't enough evidence in the video. Now, on the first instance, it does look fishy as his opponent falls through the lava, and I can see where it looks like a wallhack, but its the second one that doesn't look obvious, but I haven't loaded up a wallhack to watch the demo. If I was chasing someone from the dungeon, then thats the path I would go if I missed my railjump because I would assume that is the way my enamy ran. I think we'd need more and better demo's to actually accuse him of wallhacking.

Its a good try, and the first example shows signs that he could be, but it just isn't conclusive enough in my opinion, but like I said, I've seen this guy do some pretty wicked and suspicious things beore. But that doesn't mean he has any hacks on.

I'm not sure what FoV I use anymore lol..

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I play as Mint
And Clef

i agree with clef on this one, especially with how short the demo is, there not a whole lot of evidence there, for the tazzycane example, when he railjumped up, and saw that tazzy wasnt in the rl room, theres really only one way he could of gone. im not even quick enough to make it across the room and get out toward the ra room before someone poping up can see me.


i use 100 fov now, used to use 120, then went down to 110 before 100

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mail if he was wallhacking why would he spam rockets and gernades into the doorways... u think hes trying to throw us off lOL??

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It is actually a common tactic to spam with rockets and grenades to hide your wall hack. Its one of the only ways to hide it actually. Its like acting like a normal player, I spam rockets and grenades all the time myself. But spamming rockets and grenades means nothing.. its just spamming.

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I play as Mint
And Clef

no but thats usually a good way to make ppl think you are not hacking.

All theories lol.

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Ok, guys. I will have to agree with you then, not enough evidence.
But, for you out there hacking, I will catch you!

BTW, I think this is the way it should always go, don't let me call the shots, nor anyone else.
I think the community should decide who the hackers are.
I will step down and admit to my wrong doing of hacking accusations on this one.

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